As far as I can currently tell, ODP's monthly fee wasn't paid. Brown signed up for some automatic billing thing so I'm assuming he got a new credit card with a new expiration date and just forgot to update ODP's.
We've sent him an email, and hopefully he sees it... Since he never seems to answer mine :[
Love always, HurpDurp
thanks for the update hurp
ReplyDeleteI don't get it. why don't other people chip in? Is brown the only one who pays to get the website running?
ReplyDelete...Well, I can't answer for the other staff members, but I'm personally poor as fuck so I could never be able to afford it. I barely made it this month with all of those download sites closing down. They were my main source of income since I can't find a job anywhere. :(
DeleteAlso, Brown never asked us for money and IIRC, he said he never would.
ya same here and i'm not staff either plus i can't get a job over here plus i only have the $674 i get from the state but i pay $900 just for living expences cause if i didn't live with my parents i wouldn't have any internet or cable. so i have no chance of paying for the site, other wise i would help cover the cost also but sadly i don't know what hurp uses to make his money.
DeleteThere might also be an issue with donations, simply because what we do is already a bit on shaky ground, and adding what could be seen as "profit" could be problematic.
DeleteWe don't accept donations, it was something the old owner did, then Brown did it once before closing up the site for good.
DeleteOP here. I never meant to imply that the staff, including HurpDurp, should be responsible for paying to maintain the site. I was thinking more along the lines of donations or community pool of money, considering the site is based on the whole what's-mine-is-yours mindset.
DeleteHurp, what the hell would we do without 'ye?
ReplyDeleteProbably not have an update here at all.
DeleteI'd have given one well before this was posted, if I had the ability to do so :V
DeleteEither way, hopefully Brown will check his email some time soon...
Don't seemingly have the ability to do that.
Deletefuck give me his Phone # i'll leave 200 voice messages on his answering machine if thats what it takes and if that don't work i'll send him 100 text messages on his cell -.-
DeleteThis wouldn't be so difficult if I knew Brown's phone number :|
Deletei wonder what brown will think when he reads theses? *starts pondering*
Deletethanks for updates
ReplyDeleteDear MN:
ReplyDeleteIf you're seeing this, go send Brown a message since he seems to always answer your emails.
I forgot how to spell the email you said to send emails to :[
Heh round the merry we go agin'
ReplyDeletemykey
I know the site is down but I have a question:
ReplyDeleteI can connect to the site via my phone but when I try via my PC I also get the "connection was reset" message too. Do you know how to fix this?
Are you using the same Internet on your phone as your PC?
DeleteHave you tried disabling anything that could be blocking adult websites? A firewall or adblocker, perhaps? PeerBlock and PeerGuardian would do it too.
Have you tried dumping your cache?
Okay - we all download probably $100 worth of material AT LEAST a month from the site.
ReplyDeleteMake the site subscription run, $10 a month is a bargain!
Any money left over can buy new files that are on the 'request' page.....
Simple....
Hypnosound
Linking to copyright infringing files and PAYING to get copyright infringing files are two completely different things.
DeleteAlso, it's not viable due to the fact that no service would allow us to use it.
(Side note: I can't even afford that :<)
ya i can't afford that either parents/gaurdians control my money
DeleteYou could charge but, now with MegaUpload and all that gone... I mean sharing's seemingly going to get harder (haven't been back since yet so I don't know where that discussion's gone), but also the amount content on the site is inherently limited by the market. I dunno, I'm just not into everything that's on the site, maybe 15% or so, alot of the artists seemed to have faded into obscurity... Maybe just ads? Right? I don't know... Not a subscription guy myself.
ReplyDeleteWe already had ads. Brown literally only made 2 bucks after several months.
Deletewhat about adding ads to the site when we get it back up that may help pay the bills
DeleteLike I said earlier, we already did that. Didn't work.
Deletei mean through out the site cause the more ads you have per page the more you make
DeleteThey WERE.
DeleteAre there any other websites similar to ODP we can turn to?
ReplyDeleteHypnochan?
DeleteI just wanted to say thanks for everybody who works hard on keeping the site up. I hope Brown returns the emails and it gets back up soon.
ReplyDeleteNow Mistress Zaida at Inraptured is gloating about it... and Haylee as well!
ReplyDeletehttp://www.inraptured.com/network/wall_action.php?id=79243
ReplyDeleteDing Dong! The Witch is dead. Which old Witch? The Wicked Witch!
ReplyDeleteDing Dong! The Wicked Witch is dead.
Wake up - sleepy head, rub your eyes, get out of bed.
Wake up, the Wicked Witch is dead. She's gone where the goblins go,
Below - below - below. Yo-ho, let's open up and sing and ring the bells out.
Ding Dong' the merry-oh, sing it high, sing it low.
Let them know
The Wicked Witch is dead!
Hurp,
ReplyDeleteWe have a fantastic idea for you! We are even willing to share a few trade secrets to help you out.
Are you ready? Here goes...... Start your OWN hypnosis website! Here is what you'll need:
1. Audio Equipment and Software. This will only run you a couple thousand dollars if you want to do it right.
2. A website. If you don't know how to build a website it might take you hours upon hours to learn how to do it, or you could hire someone to do it for you. That will only cost you a couple thousand dollars.
3. Spend hours and hours of your time recording, rerecording, editing and mixing!
4. Purchase tons of royalty free music, this will cost you several thousand dollars over time but it's so worth it.
5. Spend hours and hours searching for royalty free images. Purchase and license the appropriate images to represent your work.
6. Photoshop - Learn Photoshop, oh did I mention Photoshop is only about $800, OR you could steal it??? Just an idea since you're comfortable doing that.
7. Advertise! Now, once your site is up you'll need to advertise it! This can cost you several hundred dollars a month but hey since you're a talented hypno artist no problem right? You can afford it!
Over time you will begin to build a following of clients. They will fall in love with your work and will be willing to pay you for your talent, that is if you HAVE talent. Now here is the best news of all, since major download sites like Megaupload have been shut down and more and more sites are being shut down every day due to blatant copyright infringement you might actually have a chance to make an HONEST living in this field and you won't need to worry about finding a job because you'll have one. A FULL TIME JOB! Imagine that? Plus if you catch people stealing your work you can just sue the hell out of them, then THEY can pay for all of your bills. It's a WIN, WIN!
We wish you all the luck in the world.
Sincerely,
Hypno Women of the Web!
I already have most of that, and it only costs me 11 bucks a year. Jelly?
DeleteNo, not at all. You're unemployed and poor which in itself is a shame. What is even more of a shame is the fact that you have all the resources in the world to make a honest living, and for only $11 a year? So what is your excuse exactly? Are you too lazy to work? I do not envy you in any way whatsoever. Pity you? Yes, because you are pathetic.
DeleteJust because I have all of that stuff doesn't mean it actually works in a way that can make sure I can eat every day. According to the Internets my website is literally only worth 10 bucks, so it actually costs more to maintain it than it gives.
DeleteAlso, 3 cents doesn't really help me eat either so I don't see why you're getting your panties in such a knot.
Delete1. You can get audio equipment for probably around $200 to replicate the quality of the majority of people releasing files.
Delete2. If you're paying thousands of dollars to run a website, you're incredibly inefficient at running it, and you're an idiot for paying that much.
3. Get upset that your hypnosis doesn't actually cause people to be financially endowed to you so stop wasting those hours and hours for you minimal ROI (that's return on investment for you idiotic hypnodommes calling out Hurp for being an idiot).
4. Continue wasting money on royalty free music. Or quit bitching about it and learn how to compose and produce music yourself.
5. and 6. Since you've invested HOURS AND HOURS on learning photoshop, make your own shitty fucking images (oh wait the majority of them are already awful). Also, it's funny to think that for what you hypnodommes release as images take hours and hours to produce. Literally at most 3 layered images that include a random hypnotic swirl type thing and some text in a dumb color and stupid font.
7. Advertise! Cost hundreds of dollars a month!? Again a waste of money.
Here's my two cents to any hypnodomme out there whose initials aren't IV or NF or MC: don't call anyone out for being unemployed. If you consider what you do gainful employment, then there is probably something wrong with you. I'd advise you to reevaluate your cost structure in your business, because with the information given above, it would in fact seem as though you are the poor ones. You bear the risk of your material being infringed upon when you release it on the internet.
Also, I'll be damned if whoever posted the above message has never downloaded anything from the internet in their life. Read a book and get a real job. Until then we'll all happily fap to the files you have so graciously provided.
AMEN
DeleteYou should've said who you were Anon, I would've given you VIP for being a bro :(
DeleteMaybe Brown can figure out who you are since it doesn't let me see emails or IPs.
Haha it's papajewski. I left the post anyon being weary of possible backlash from these hypnodommes. Then I realized they probably don't really even know what a class action lawsuit is, etc. Anyways, I'm always willing to lend my 2 cents, to those less intelligent or unable to receive a higher education (talking about these hypnodommes obviously).
DeleteKeep doing your thing Hurp, hopefully the site is up and running sooner than later. And by the way, everyone should check out the interview with Kim Dotcom post FBI crackdown. He has a legit case and response to everything he's been taken into custody for. I'll try and find a link and repost it here, or on the boards once they're back up.
Wow, you are some nasty, nasty little sluts!
ReplyDeleteYou seem to be pretty sure the site will not come back up again too...
It doesn't matter if the site comes back up. In fact we hope it does! We have enough information now to create a class action lawsuit against this site and it's admins if we so choose! We have been paying your bills or so it seems. Perhaps it is time you pay ours! :)
ReplyDeleteBut I don't own the website so whatever I say is irrelevant. And also, I never specifically said "piracy of hypnosis is my main source of income", I said "file sharing sites" are. If you were smart at all, you'd realize you'd lose that case because you can't prove what actually funded my pocket (if you're curious, it was hentai, which you don't own any rights to).
DeleteHow do you pay my bills, you stupid cunt?
Deletedude your losing this battle cause pirating is going to happen eventually for all files f.e. THEY HAVE FUCKING YOUTUBE DOWNLOADING PROGRAMS DIP SHIT!!!!!! and besides that all someones got a do is upload said file for a back up perpuses and BAM there goes the file across the world for everyone to download.
DeleteSo.......... CAN IT YOU BITCH ASS COCK SUCKING MOTHER FUCKER SHACUNET ESTINET SHONNOT CASENTEN GOSHONA ENTONO HENTINA GONESHONO ONETSHONA WHORE
also unless you are fluent in both the old and new Navajo versions of the language you have no fucking clue what i just said bitch
It's impossible to get a link to a file until the uploader posts it on the Internet somewhere. There's a difference between "backing up" and "sharing", DD.
DeleteDamm you ARE nasty...
ReplyDeleteThis is why I hate giving money to these "dommes" because they are nasty filthy people in their heart of hearts, that produce shit "hypnosis" anyway. I want to thank ODP for saving me from wasting money on these horrible, horrible people and their crappy "hypnosis" products.
ReplyDeleteJudging from some of the garbage files I've heard by some of these "hypnodommes" they don't spend hours and hours recording their stuff.
ReplyDeleteSome of them suck I'll agree, but there are many that are quite good and the reason we still listen, no?
ReplyDeleteThe only good one is Nikki Fatale and out of her 7 most recent files we only have one - the collab she did with Mistress Carol.
DeleteSo... In theory we're only listening to them because they suck.
Also, in response to "hours and hours recording their stuff"... Well, they don't. Very few even have sub-par microphones, and even less of those spell check using Word. By the way, you don't need to spend "thousands" of dollars. Just buy a good noise cancelling USB (important) one. They're literally only $10-$200 (the more you spend, the better the quality). I personally bought a $160 headset.
i use a $500 one that i got at a gaming convention for $20
DeleteTotally agree Hurp.
DeleteThose inflated numbers that whatsherface quoted are so fucking inflated it's ridiculous. A good usb mic is next to nothing these days (and, btw, it's obvious that 90 percent of these chicks are using a $10 webcam mic), and any PC built since 1997 can handle the minimal editing on (FREE) Audacity software that this kind of work requires. And as far as 'royalty-free' music goes, I'd love to see the licenses.
The funny thing is, I buy a shitload of work by the good dommes (NF, as you mentioned, IV when she was doing stuff that was actually good, and a couple of others), ones that write good scripts and give a shit about what they put out.
The rest of 'em can go under as far as I care. If ODP helps cull the herd, all the best. I'd rather have less files and have them be high quality than lots and lots of shitty files (as often seems to be the case these days).
Since dommes are listening, here are a few thoughts. Please note that this is directed to only the dommes who are endangered by ODP (Read: the shitty ones).
1. stop using your built-in laptop mic (and if a fucking police car goes by, hit 'stop' and start again).
2. write better scripts (at least write SOMETHING down before you start flapping your gums)
3. ditch the music and extraneous sfx. we don't give a shit about that stuff. Randomly overdubbing your blabber is not effective. Again, just giving a shit goes a long way.
4. realize that many of us heard about lots of you for the first time on ODP, and be thankful for the business that has been sent your way.
5. if you're still butt hurt about filesharing, please realize that it's not going away, and either go away yourself or develop a new business model that takes the reality of the marketplace into consideration. Although a well considered business model might be too much for those of you 'pirate' hypnodommes who are just ripping off the careers of actual dommes who came before you. Seriously, YOU LADIES should be paying MzDominica, Anonymistress, Lady Lita and Isabella (among other pioneers) for the material you so often BLATANTLY rip off of them.
For a primer on the reality of the marketplace, and perhaps a successful mode to consider, please google 'Cory Doctorow' and 'Louis CK'.
That advice was on the house, ladies! -kisses!-
Haha, I read "blabber" as "bladder" at first.
DeleteIt's funny because it's basically the same thing, they're just talking out of their asses :3
I'd like to add something to your 5th point, however. Stop being fucking retards and just DMCA the goddamn things. It's not that hard. It's literally ONE email and takes less than 2 minutes to type up (hell, I could probably do it in 30 seconds). Admittedly, this only works if you have access to the website to get the URLs, sure, but Shelly on Hypnochan told the users to remove links from LITERALLY months ago and NEVER DMCA'd it. I even publicly called her a retard for not lrning2dmca.
The topic is here if anyone is interested: http://hypnochan.org/self/res/3454.html
Also, Nikki is a pioneer too. She goes all the way back to the damn Usenet.
Good point Hurp, I shoulda added Nikki to that list. One of the earliest AND best.
DeleteAlso, you're spot on about DMCA option. It is SO DAMN RIDICULOUSLY EASY to get a file pulled!
But remember who we're dealing with... some of these 3rd rate hypno wannabes can't even write a coherent script without cribbing from others' work. Maybe we should type them up a form email that they can use for DCMAs.
To say that Dommes are just ripping off previous Dommes is... ungenuine. A lot of the themes used are the same because people keep on asking the same thing from different Dommes. This is a consumer problem... not a producer problem.
DeleteNah, not really. There's BLATANT theft of chunks of old scripts in many of the newer jenny-come-latelys' "work". More than just recurring themes, these are direct knockoffs. So, no. Can't dodge that one.
DeleteHrmm... are you sure? Do you have proof? Who's doing this blatant ripping? That's a bold accusation without actually saying much.
DeleteAre you serious? It's no secret, in fact the dommes themselves have had epic flame wars over intellectual property theft among members of there -chuckle- community. There are enough instances to fill a whole other blog! Come to think of it, that's a great idea.
Deletehttp://www.inraptured.com/network/groups/55/The-Elephant-in-the-Parlor/General-Discussions/Courtesy-and-Ethics-Between-Dommes-134-1.html
DeleteKasha has a nice long post about it... And then MzD even backs the sentiment...
There's only so many themes to explore really. And in such a niche market there is going to be overlap. It's inevitable really...
yeah, talk about making excuses LOL
Delete'There are only so many themes to explore'
Right, if you have no imagination and are limited to copying others' work!!!
the lack of creativity is so obvious, and unfortunately its not just themes that are ripped off, its verbatim text, whole paragraphs worth. Without mentioning names, a couple of the angry 'ladies' mouthing off on this here board are VERY guilty of this on multiple occasions. if i were them i'd be very careful.
Extreme amounts of butthurt emanating from these comments. ODP will be back, deal with it.
ReplyDeleteHAHAHA @ the arrogance and sheer pretense of these noname 'hypnodommes' like "Hypnotic Haley" acting like their generic recordings are priceless works of art. They should be extremely grateful that ANYONE buys their shit, EVER. That's far more than they deserve, if they think otherwise they're delusional frankly.
ReplyDeleteHonestly, the amount of butt hurt "hypnodommes" in this thread is glorious. I'm half tempted to pay ODP's bill myself just to keep the butt hurt rolling.
ReplyDeleteAlso, to all the "hypnodommes" threatening ODP with lawsuits please blow it out your ass. Your empty threats do nothing by illustrate what a bunch of greedy cunts you are.
I had typed a treatise on how free distribution drives business in a niche (read very small) market, but then realized that the ??hypnodommes?? who are reading this lil comment section would read it see the valid and supported evidence and then ignore it or rail at it, so nevermind it isn't worth the retype.
ReplyDeleteRemember when cassettes killed radio? Remember when Napster killed the recording industry and bankrupted every single artist?
ReplyDeleteYeah.
How is this relevant here? Regardless, In this day and age, Artists are equipped to make money very easily with little effort on their part. That's what the internet has evolved to and now record companies are terrified. More and more direct selling from artists are surfacing the web as good examples as time goes on.
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DeleteRemember how stoves and microwaves killed restaurants?
DeleteAccidentally deleted the comment :<
LOL "Filesharing is Killing the Shitty Fake Hypnodomme Industry"
DeleteIn every forum I have been on including ODP, Copyright holders had the right to report any infringing material. It is the responsibility of the copyright holder notify the forum of any infringing material. Then the forum to take appropriate action. But not for the forum administrators to assume material is in breach of copyright without confirmation from a copyright holder first. If the copyright holder has not informed a forum of a copyright breach, then they cannot expect the forum administrators to remove material/links that has not been reported in breach of copyright. Material could have legally been put on to public domain by the copyright holder. So there is not legal redress as the opportunity is given and even requested to report any material that may have been in breach of copyright to the forum administrators.
ReplyDeletei'm starting to worry about brown i haven't seen him scents he made that post saying he was back cause i'm wondering if he filed for bankruptcy.
ReplyDelete...When did he say he was back?
DeletePretty sure that was from an earlier absence DDOKing007...
Deletehe said it on the hurp is in charge and a few posts later i posted "get back to work" and that was the last i seen him
ReplyDeleteHis signature still said "Away be back soon" the day before the site went offline.
DeleteActually you seem to fit the description quite well: poor and no job. Exactly what a LOSER sound like!
ReplyDeleteAnd to mention that other hypno-download-website...are you THAT stupid?
DeleteI see another lawsuit comin'....
The stupid ones are the hypnodommes who've mentioned ODP on their websites, like Princess Angel and Mistress Zaida.
DeleteLiterally no chance for a lawsuit. Like someone said above, forum administrators technically assume that what is being posted isn't copyright infringing material. In order for a lawsuit to actually occur the hypnodommes would have to bring a lawsuit against the users who individually posted files, which is difficult. It makes it even harder when the material being posted is being provided from multiple sources (the multiple hypnodommes). i.e. if I post a file from IV and Mistress Bullshit Haley or whatever is pissed a file of hers got posted, she can't file a lawsuit against people posting other dommes files. Literally every domme would have to come together and do it, which seems near impossible.
DeleteMy advice would be for them to take their own advice. Get a real job, or like I stated in my previous rant, they can continue to waste their money on idiotic costs by adding legal costs to that, because in order for anything to happen legal fees would be extremely high and I highly doubt a respectable lawyer would take them seriously. But what do I know, I'm just a college educated American who has a real job that makes me a PRODUCTIVE member of society.
LOL....they have a nice hobby as Hypnodomme, and to say: Well, get a real job....that sounds pitiful (to day the least!)
DeleteThe ones who should get a job are the ones who are poor and broke....(Hurrrr)
And even say they are stupid...they have EVERY right to mention ODP on their website, because it is ThEIR material....now who is stupid?
I know I need a job, however finding one is not an easy task.
DeleteAnd as for your question, it's still the dommes. They want to make money, right? Why would you advertise a place where someone can get your shit for free?
Because maybe....they have a mole in their, who can backtrack everything...I don't need to mention a certain mistress who's files are almost the same day deleted as they are bein'upped...just watch your back, they almost got us!!
Deletereply top statement:
Deleteyo can it some of us can't get a job because of medical and mental conditions >.< in other words ME also if you try and sue me you'll loss cause i can't be charge of a copy right crime cause my mental state of mind can't really judge the consequences of my action very well so shut it be for my vocals unleash a nuclear massive amount of backlash in Navajo you've been warned
I wonder if "being a hikikomori" could be a defense in court. Hmmmmm.
DeleteI think the problem here is that there are a lot of hypnotists who weight their efforts much higher than free seeking internet communities like this one. Most use it as a second source of income, and actually have jobs. So really this is a hobby they want to be compensated for. And there's nothing wrong with that. It's their art. They script their files, they do the recording and editing. It's all homegrown.
ReplyDeleteAnd so, when a hypnotist sees a file that took a while to orchestrate and put together get posted to ODP as soon as it's released. They get pissed. It's their extra time that they could have used for other purposes getting flushed down the drain.
Even greater is that a number of the files are produced for people who truly see themselves as submissive. And use the files as an outlet for those fantasies. Because of that these people keep in tight correspondence with the Domme/s of their choice. While here most of the people only use it for one cool trip, or whack off material and couldn't give two shits about the Domme who created it. All porn on the internet should be free right?
The fact that this community collectively rolls their eyes when you see one of the "Dommes" being a bitch for small things like getting people to jump through a couple extra hoops to get a free file shows that you have a complete disregard for the people making them.
Note: I'm not saying that the "Dommes" here are off scott free either. There are "Dommes" out there who only see the people who buy files off of them as a dollar sign only Or an extra pair of shoes.. or whatever.
It's also notorious of them to price older files that don't have the same quality as their new ones or are clunkier in style and less refined at the same price as the new files they release. Basic economics dictates that something that is old and not in demand should not cost the same as something that is new and is heavily in demand. Especially in a free internet.
True, I'm greatly annoyed by people who think it's a right to download/share pirated files.
ReplyDeleteIt's not a right, it's a privilege and you should always respect the original authors of files. And as always, if you like it, buy it.
Whining about quality is a bullshit argument too, if you think the quality is average it doesn't automatically give you the right to pirate the file.
Now I admit that I've pirated a lot in the past but I'm not trying to be a fucking hypocrit about it. Don't start whining with arguments like 'some dommes produce shitty files and therefor I deserve the right to pirate those files'. It's just bullshit.
And they can whine about it as much as they want, in the end it's THEIR files YOU pirated.
I don't think publicly talking about ODP is a very smart thing to do for them though, it's rather stupid really.
And last but not least, I do believe that the pirating from a few years ago boosted the hypnofetish market a lot. The hypnodommes can deny it all they want but I'm pretty sure at least IV and NF got a lot of customers as a result.
Also, IV sucks now.
Also, cocks.
Nobody above said that it's their 'right' to pirate material.
DeleteI agree with you, and with my original statement, that hypnodommes have gotten a HUGE boost from the trading of their files (not just on ODP, but torrents and the like). Not all of them, mind you, just the ones worth their shit.
That's where the quality 'argument' comes in (not really whining, thanks all the same): No artist worth their shit complains about pirating. The ones who pirating hurts the most are the ones who give the least of a shit about their quality. It's a fucking FACT. The stuff we buy is the stuff we feel an emotional connection with. The stuff that MOVES us. When was the last time a Metallica record moved you? Yep, that's why those dudes have been such douches. Can't build an emotional connection if your band is asleep at the wheel and on autopilot. Or if you're a shitty 'hypnodomme' who cribs scripts from old Christine Michele mp3s and records into your laptop whilst jamming Doritos into your mouth.
The ones who you never hear complaining are the most successful. Perhaps not coincidentally, they see 'pirating' for what it is: an base-energizing loss-leader that generates new fans and brings in far more revenue to the talented than it costs.
Again, google 'Cory Doctorow' and 'Louis CK' and even fucking 'Radiohead' for great examples of artists who are thriving by working WITH this business model instead of against it. And they don't even repeat 'buy my recordings' ad nauseam on their records!
Seriously, there are so many reasons why these ladies would want to take a second and cool down before engaging with this community. Princess Angel is a good example.
Bottom line is, no matter how hard they try to protect their shit, this is still gonna happen. If it's not ODP, it'll be someone else. There was robust filesharing before ODP and hypnochan, and there will be vigorous sharing after they're gone.
Back to your original point though: no one in this thread has said that pirating is a right. What IS being said to the Zaidas and Hayleys of the world is this: if your shit isn't quality, please don't waste everyone's time blaming pirates for your lack of sales. Spend your time instead improving your skills, taking a writing course, learning actual hypnosis techniques, taking voice courses, etc...
>no one in this thread has said that pirating is a right
DeleteI never said people said that, it's the way people talk about files they don't own or have any right to own.
All I'm saying is, even if the files suck -in their opinion- it doesn't automagically make the files copyright free. People need to stop acting as if they own the rights to software/music/etc because its _THEIR_ vision on how the world should be.
It's just plain wrong.
Oldskool scener here, the general p2p mentality sickens me.
Oh and about your Metallica comment, I thought Death Magnetic was a step back into the right direction lol.
DeleteSt. Anger was their absulute worst shit and Black Album is overrated/overhyped compared to their older stuff.
Fuck yeah master of puppets!
I agree with you str00p, it isn't a right and people with that privileged mentality bug me too.
DeleteI guess my main thought is: we're here, this is the way things are (no matter how anyone feels about that) and content producers would be better served in working on creative solutions instead of focusing on piracy which is really a red herring and not at all the scourge that everyone makes it out to be. Ultimately, these ladies are not well served by wasting time on this.
The big record companies and motion picture producers can afford to fuck around with file sharing sites, but these gals just can't. So, what do they do then? Simple. Ignore it. Go back to working on their craft and keep getting better. Look at the market and try to figure out new ways of hooking customers (including 'leaking' files, maintaining reasonable prices for their files, subscription services, etc.)... sites like ODP must be a godsend for dommes who need a scapegoat is all I'm saying.
I haven't heard Death Magnetic, but after your thumbs up I am very interested... if it even approaches anything like Master of Puppets then there's maybe a little life left in those dudes yet!
Well, don't expect too much of it, I thought it was decent compared to the previous stuff they did in recent years, still worth a listen though :D
DeleteI loved that LEARNING ACTUAL HYPNOSIS was not listed as a cost to produce recordings. That should tell you the quality of these "hypnodommes."
ReplyDeleteI'm wondering if you know what "Actual" hypnosis is and can point out the people who don't.
DeleteHow do you know the quality of these Hypnodommes?
ReplyDeleteJust listen once and throw the file away...eh?
Nobody said you should listen to every FUCKING file from every FUCKING Hypnodomme.
If you don't like it, get the FUCK out of here...don't start complaining about something you got for free, some really nasty sluts are here.
Can you name the Dommes who haven't learned actual hypnosis?
ReplyDeleteTessa has a professional practice. Lee gives classes on hypnosis. Shelle Rivers is certified.
Come on now...
Mira?
Zusa?
Candice?
Ru'Etha?
Who do you think doesn't at least own a book on hypnosis?
Hello?
I own a book on neurosurgery. Would that qualify me to operate on your frontal lobe? Hm... I might need to do a laproscopy, but I've only got a $10 webcam mic... and is it OK if I operate on you while I'm eating Snackwells?
DeleteCertainly not ALL hypnodommes are guilty of this slipshod approach to their 'craft', but it sure does seem like the ones who are most vocal about piracy are the ones doing the most audible crunchin' and munchin' in their sloppy inductions... coincidence? I think not.
The cream rises to the top and doesn't bother with the 'threat' of piracy. The chaff wallows in mediocrity and lashes out at a convenient scapegoat, or worse, sends their desperate bootlicker out to do the job for 'em.
Neurosurgery =/= Hypnosis. The fact that there are books out there specifically designed for the layman to do hypnosis shows that it's safe enough that anyone can do it. People experience trance every day. And is more natural than cracking open someone's skull
DeleteExcuse me while I attempt to go find a "How to perform brain surgery on your partner" book
I agree! "Fantasy" hypnosis doesn't need to be exact. As long as it gets you off, then erotic hypno is doing its job. Having a real hypnotist is a plus, but not a requirement. I've gone under so many times that a sweet voice and a half decent script is enough to drop me, but that's just me.
DeleteThat being said, even those standards aren't being met in 90 percent of the files that I've heard. Too bad too, because with so much interest in the genre that's come from sites like Inraptured and, yes, even ODP, there should be no reason for a young lady with half a brain and a good voice to be able to make hand over fist, file sharing or no.
Still, if file sharing thins the herd a bit, well that's just the marketplace regulating itself and pirating is just accelerating these dommes' choice to find a new line of work. Pretty Darwinian, actually.
I'll always support the real Dommes that I love and obey, and I would never share their files, but I find it funny that people just can't face the reality of the times we live in.
lol @ angry 'hypnodommes', just desperate for some sort of attention :(
ReplyDeletedaddy loves you :)
LOL
Deleterofl i find it funny that these people get their panties in a not over just be cause a website has few hypnosis files and lot of other shit that they don't own rights to that went down.
DeleteI don't know. I just found this online and I love it!
ReplyDeletehttp://vimeo.com/22942847
Not bad, but I can't hear her voice over the background noise and music. She's cute though.
Deletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y4vIzEkd6s
ReplyDeleteThis one is my favorite.
I believe that it's not so much the quality of the file that keeps the Domme afloat as much as it's how prolific they are. Think of the people most pirated on ODP... they are the ones with the HUUUUGE back catalog.
ReplyDeleteThe truth of the matter is that it's likely a bell curve... if you're really good, a lot of people will attempt to get their hands on the file. And so people ask, plead, and beg for people to get their hands on it.
(Instances include, Isabella... Nikki)
If you're... not so great, people see no qualms about pirating your stuff and do it to show people that they shouldn't buy it
(FHRA)
The problem here is that Zaida actually has decent quality (Anything recorded in a professional studio is better than a USB mic) but she's not prolific enough to make it worth while. She's a huge draw period, her following is pretty massive on IR. If people saw something wrong with her style or didn't like it all that much people wouldn't latch onto her the way they do. Even more, she doesn't do phone sessions. All her stuff are videos and files. So she doesn't that cut.
One of Zaida's videos nearly gave me a seizure. She didn't even give any warning about it either.
Deleteyes, karma is a BIATCH!
DeleteHow the fuck is that "karma"? It effects everyone, including the people who got it the correct way.
DeleteAnd isn't it illegal to not put a warning about that anyway?
You know i'm being sarcastic about you, or you just don't get it?! Well ?
DeleteHow is that sarcasm? That sounds more like a vindictive bitch being pissed off that someone posted her shitty videos online.
Deleteit is here in the USA on games, music and medicine.
DeleteI see the comment about not having hypnosis training as an expense cut pretty deep and exposed these "hypnodommes" for hacks.
ReplyDeleteI've also noticed we've got the zaida is a great "hypnodomme" idiots posting now. She's another terrible "hypnodomme" that can't go away fast enough.
The reviews aren't so nice when their not on your sycophantic sites anymore, are they?
So... who has actual hypnosis training?
DeleteYou want to say they're hacks... but, who has actual training? Can you tell?
Do you know? or do you just have a certain preference?
Did you have your glass of cumshot today? I guess not!!
DeleteActually, I thought what people had to say about Zaida's files is generally pretty good. Even on ODP, Hypnochan or random p2p sites.
DeleteI've gotta admit, the session I've tried didn't get me under but as far as I recall it was a proper induction technique.. either that or I'm confused with a different session.
She's not bad, just not very inventive... and the incessant 'Buy My Files' crap is offputting. Done first, and far better, by many others.
DeleteStill, even if her work is lackluster, I'll admit that she has a fairly legit induction style. Her sound quality is ok too. Her voice isn't bad either, although a bit overwrought. She could benefit from backing off of the melodramatic goth thing and maybe giving a bit more of a singsong delivery.
Overall though, she's just kinda meh I'd say. She could totally get better though, given time and a better script.
She's annoying. And a chick with her looks should refrain from making vids, IMHO.
DeleteBack to the real topic at hand, is it just me or do you guys also feel like it's going to be A WHILE until ODP comes back up...
ReplyDeleteWho knows? It seems to all hinge on getting in touch with brown. That will take as long or as short of a time as it takes. I don't think that necessarily means it'll be a long while, but it could be.
DeleteI'm still waiting for a reply to a message I sent him in December.
DeleteLemme guess. The message was: Hey brown, can you give me better contact info in case the site goes down again?
DeleteAh well, hope he's enjoying himself on his trip 'round the world or whatever it is he's up to. In the meantime, it's been fun to get re-aquainted with torrents. There's a lot of newer stuff up since I last checked!
Nah, I wanted to ban Princess Angel and remove her from the DNP list.
DeleteI know you and her clashed a lot but banning her?
DeleteI know she acts like a total bitch most of the time but its all part of the act she has to keep up for those pathetic losers worshipping her.
I'm pretty sure her hypno stuff doesn't make her nearly as much money as all the non-hypno stuff does btw. I mean, despite the obvious demand I never saw that whispers 3 ses-DISREGARD THAT I SEE ITS OUT. Must've missed it, wonder if its any good..
Her shit is way overpriced though.
$100 for a session? The fuck man.
For that money you can instead buy:
Between 4-6 music albums (more if on itunes).
Between 4-6 dvds.
About 3 bluray discs.
About 3 Nikki Fatale sessions.
All recent.
I was okay with her arguing with me, but she started involving other users and eventually pulled her files off the site (blaming me for some reason - the files would've been removed a couple of months later with Megaupload closing, but still!), thereby ending our agreement of her being allowed access. And she didn't stop there, she kept flaming people for a couple weeks after that. She stopped coming all together soon afterwords though, unless someone else banned her without me knowing.
DeleteWell I know I didn't ban her either so evidently she just gave up coming around.
DeleteI think some other Users also started questioning her and maybe she just didn't want to deal with the heat.
Also I think that was the time frame that she was complaining about you Hurp, and then she realized that you were an Admin. not just a Mod. :)
I was thinking of getting a custom session from her, her voice is so damn sexy.
DeleteBut meh, her regular sessions are overpriced, I don't even want to know what a custom would cost.
I think she answered that on the forum once, so be sure to check her posts if/when the site gets back up :V
DeleteAlso, inorite Dark? How can you miss the image that clearly states "ADMINISTRATOR" on it? :(
If you all really want better hypnodommes out there, nobody is stopping any of you from transitioning (or at least developing a female voice) and doing it yourself.
ReplyDeleteDuh. Happening.
Delete^ This. I LOLed.
DeleteWould anyone be opposed to a new site being set up? I'd be willing to put together another site for us to discuss (password protected of course). Thoughts?
ReplyDeleteAnd how exactly would you go about sharing this password?
Delete1) you made a dump of the ODP userbase, stored on your disk
Delete2) you and he get in contact, you share details of some of the more active members so he can invite us to the priv. board/you invite some of the old members
3) he is actually an ultra mad domme in disguise
4) THEY HAS OUR IPS
5) ???
6) profit!
I can't view the database without having a place to import it to, which I currently don't :<
DeleteAlso, apparently I don't have a recent one despite being fairly certain I did it a week before this happened.
And, yeah, there's also that.
Not to mention 90% of the forum used fake/temp emails.
Again, i ask you to not be so stupid!
Delete1. You could not be HurpDurp and be a Domme in disguise.
2. You ARE HurpDurp and someone else is pretending to be a member and asks for ALL emails....yes, 50/60/70% are false, but there ARE emails that aren't flse, in which way f. e. a certain Princess Angel can flame against them....really be warned!!
Wait... You think I'm *NOT* HurpDurp?
DeleteThat doesn't make any sense, do I have to go post a new blog post on here to prove it?
Hell, if I weren't myself, wouldn't I have made a post saying that already?
Or are you not trusting the authenticity of this blog? If so, you must have never read the rules :(
It's more than 70. I once banned all temp email address, 90% of the forum was locked out for less than 24 hours including one staff member.
Well, my original thought was to set up the server, get the forums installed, then coordinate with HurpDurp on sending out invites to known addresses. For those that were lurkers, but still had access would be a little more difficult but mainly was considering a full fresh reboot. Not looking to fully replace (unless that was needed), but give the members the ability to continue on until ODP was back up...
DeleteI do design/management by trade so, just trying to be a contributing member of the community, that's all...
well fuck that would contribute a lot to the ODP rudy and besides that. hurp could you forward the data to rudy or would that be braking the privacy policy
DeleteYou've got to be kidding me DDOKing007, you honestly think hurp is just going to send a database dump to someone?
DeleteI for one do not want anything shared/moved from the old database to a new one not owned by the original owner and/or admins.
Either send out new invites or don't do anything at all.
LOL @Anon post
DeleteDefiantly is 100% HurpDurp :-)
Should read Definitely
DeleteTyping quick on mini tablet screen is a nightmare lol
Sorry, Rudy, I'm not so sure people would like that given the fact that you really might not be *you*.
DeleteBesides, my only email I like associating with ODP is kind of out of commission at the moment (because it's domain no longer exists) and I don't want to make a new one on some random site and post it here so it can be spammed up by angry women :(
Also, once again the whole database is old, can't view shit without a phpBB board to import to and most emails are fake durpdurpdurpdurpdurpdurpdurpdurp issues sure don't help much either.
With that said, are you sure you have a good enough server? I don't know how much Brown was paying a month, but I think he had a dedicated server so it was at least $200 a month (and it was offshore - which is kind of crucial).
Oh, and by the way, if I'm not HurpDurp... How the fuck would I have a database backup anyway? :/
I can assure you that I am, in fact NOT Rudy Huxtable from the Cosby show. But I do see a kink in the plan (the offshore server). All of the ones I have are domestic. $200 a month? Was there really THAT much traffic to need something that heavy?
DeleteI wasn't looking for a full on db dump, was looking to do (as DDOKing007 stated below) was create a fall back to keep the conversation rolling. Maybe not even have a place to post files, but have a fall back forum to discuss new file releases, etc... something that isn't as linear as the comments on a blog post (completely and totally NO offense meant, you're the only reason we even have THIS to conversate on).
I in no way want a DB dump of the old ODP... too much responsibility. It's moreso (again) just wanting a place to pick up the conversation where we left off, ya know?
How is a dedicated server at least 200 a month?
DeleteI have several dedicated servers (yes, true dedicated servers, not vps's) and I pay ~20 euro a month per server.
This is with unlimited traffic too (FUP).
btw HurpDurp, I trust you keep that db on a secure location? Wouldn't want a db with 10k members leaking out with all the dirt that was on ODP :-)
Also, you can view the data in your dump just fine, or did you export it in some obscure format? If you have a sql dump you can simply import it in a local db (takes like 1 minute to install mysql, maybe some more to download) and watch that shit.
Oh, damn, you're right! I thought phpBB encrypted the data in some way, but it apparently doesn't!
DeleteIn you're curious where it's saved at: My HDD. Not really sure where else to put it honestly.
As for questions about the price... Maybe I'm doing it wrong. I've never owned a dedicated server, so I dunno. I just copy and pasted what was written here basically: http://adf.ly/6HMXA
Actually, let me correct that first statement. I can open it in Notepad and kind of read it (with a shit ton of stuff in between making it almost impossible to find anything, I had to use Ctrl+F to find my own username... Which came back with literally a bajillion results), however the file will not import into MySQL Workbench (too large) and I could never figure out how to get phpmyadmin to install on my computer (it always give me a "mysql extension is missing" error message).
Deletehave you tryed splitting the file into smaller sizes?
DeletePretty sure that would corrupt the database.
DeleteSo what's the backup plan here? With cheggit and this down there goes my 2 main sources. I've found pornolab to be a good niche site but it lacks the forum element this place had, not to mention it's mostly Russian.
ReplyDeleteI've been working on a captioned video for feminization/transformation that I was making for this forum, but now that it's down, I need a place to go and show it off.
Also, to answer your original question, to share the password, I'd set it up for users to have to register and then I could either be the one to receive the registration requests and then forward them to you (HurpDurp) or I could just have the membership registrations sent directly to you cutting out the middleman. I could just be the "admin" for the sight updates/security updates, etc, but have you guys run everything else.
ReplyDeletewell i think that would work especially if the odp had a backup sever that we can go to if the main site goes down we can continue the forum and send the threads to the odp when it gets up and operational again.
Deletethats my view on it also
signed
(means i would right my signature on the paper for it saying that i'm for the idea. its something we did on DDO.
I think this is a great idea.
Deletehave you tried putting the file into MS Access? It may work there.
ReplyDeleteErr what? $200 dedicated server HurpDurp?
ReplyDeleteIt was on one of their shared offshore packages as far as I'm aware.
Was it? I thought Brown said it was on a dedicated server :/
DeleteO Brown, Where Art Thou?
ReplyDeleteMN said he thinks he's in jail :V
DeleteOh MAN that sucks if true. Hey... ping me if you want to do something... even if it's a way to get a forum up and running. No file trading. I just want to do what I can to help... that's all...
DeleteIf you're gonna start a strictly discussion based forum (no piracy), you could just do it yourself without any of us ya know.
DeleteThat does suck. Hope brown's ok.
DeleteIn jail for what? Anything ODP related?
Delete...I said "thinks". Not "is".
DeleteThanks for the update and keeping us posted, Hurp. Hope the theory is wrong and Brown is fine...
DeleteOk, so let me rephrase that.
DeleteWhat does he THINK he's in jail for?
Well, the exact quote he said to me was "Something happened then, because its like he's currrently in jail".
DeleteSounds like we just don't know. That's fine. If it is indeed a billing issue, then as soon as brown realizes the error we should be back up and running.
Delete(That is, if brown hasn't fallen under the spell of one of these pseudo-hypnodommes... maybe brown is helpless to purchase Snackwells, Lean Cuisine dinners and Diet Books to send Zaida from her Amazon Wish list!)
Actually, with most dedi providers you have X days to pay the bills before the server gets wiped.
DeleteI'm pretty sure that'll happen any day now if it hasn't already ;)
It's apparently not dedicated, CN said it's shared.
Deletewow this sucks what happened to ODP...
ReplyDeleteThat would be awesome if the site came back soon, ODP kicked ass and was one of a kind. But thanks hurpdurp for keeping us updated through this blog, it's nice to at least know what happened to it and what is going on.
why would anyone think brown was in jail .... this is how rumors start kiddies best hide your HDDs now !!
ReplyDeleteHe did a lot more illegal things than just ran a copyright infringing forum.
DeleteAwesome. As if the name of ODP wasn't bad enough already.
Delete> Implying more than a handful of people even know it exists or what it's for
DeleteHell, Bob from Hypnofantasy wanted to affiliate with us. He was under the impression it was a (closed) community for discussions.
I have decided that I'm not buying anymore files until ODP has come back in some form.
ReplyDeleteI don't see how that would help anyone, but okay.
DeleteI have decided that i am not buying any more files until ODP has come back.
ReplyDeleteAlso I have never bought any files
Also also, if it comes back I still won't
That's no good. Do you want your account pruned when the site comes back up? :(
DeleteWe got comedians lumbering about, eh Hurp?
DeleteBack to non panty-in-a-bunch-hypnodomme news:
any updates?
C'mon, if we had any updates don't you think I would've made a new blog post by now? :/
DeleteIt looks like IV released another pile of shit.
ReplyDeleteWe need a forum again so we can honestly talk about the files and dommes without fear of censorship or being shouted down by brain damaged white knights.
agreed
DeleteYou could always do it here and just ignore anyone who replies nega-posi- ...I'm not sure how to finish this sentence.
DeleteI do love how Mistress Zaida is crying poverty, how much pirates take out of her pocket, yet a slave just bought her a new iPhone 4s.
ReplyDeleteThat's 699 GBP/1100 USD!
...The fuck? The most expensive one (64GB) is only $400 with contract ($849 without) in the United States.
Deletehttp://princessangelx.livejournal.com/152563.html
ReplyDelete>So yes I FINALLY switched to Mac and so far I'm loving
>it. The only downside I've seen to having a mac is that
>it's hard to find hacker serial codes for all of these
>expensive programs I need for various things. But bubble
>butt better come through and stop making Me wait forever!
>Not too happy with you lard ass, so get your ass in gear.
>I mean it's been a couple weeks and so far you've only
>emailed Me with ONE code out of like 8 that I want, and
>that wasn't even for the mac.
Lololololololololololol. SURE IS HYPOCRITE IN HERE.
I'll get you all of them in 20 seconds if you give me Whispers 3 kukukuku :3
I think princessangel is pretty cool. she uses hard to find hacker serial codes and doesnt afraid of anything
DeleteYou don`t want Whispers 3. My friend has it and says it`s just The 15 mins iDoser (yeah, the one with the music in the middle) looped 3 times with Whispers 1 in the left ear and a bit more descriptive series of whispers in the surround setting.
DeleteSorry m8.
That's why I said give it to me for free, durr.
DeleteAlso, if your friend has it, go get him to share that shit :(
It`s the only thing i can do...beg him.. and i am. I feel like a hypnotized pet, eager to get all mp3`s from my goddess... oh wait.
DeleteI could give him an invite if he gives it to us (assuming the website comes back up) :3
DeleteIts a sad thing the site is still down. Im not much of a talker but i liked to read the various forums.
ReplyDelete-rem234
It's good that we have this blogspot, but perhaps we could organize a temporary/light-weight/cheap alternative that would still facilitate sharing on occasions when odp.com is down. e.g., an IRC channel?
ReplyDeleteI'm fairly certain people do not want their IP visible by typing in "/whois *username*". Well, at the very least I don't. Sure, you can hide it, but not all servers or applications support that. For example, my preferred IRC client of choice does not.
DeleteAny updates on when ODP might be back up?
ReplyDeleteUPDATE: If there are any updates I'll make a new blog post, so don't bother asking.
ReplyDeleteThink it's safe to say the site is dead. Even if it comes back up, by the time it does, don't imagine a lot of people will be around...
ReplyDelete